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We've found that the vast majority of Ashtead residents are overwhelmingly supportive of SSAFA, Headley Court, the Armed Forces and our campaign. The 90 or so objectors, and their attitudes, do not represent most Ashtead residents from everything we've seen. Please, in thanks to all those people, bear that in mind when posting!

Thank you to everyone who's helped achieve this wonderful result. We've known from the outset that the concerns raised were misplaced. SSAFA and the families concerned will now have the chance to prove that. We know they'll be more than equal to the task.

Oh, and thanks for all the fish

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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Frances Brown
From: Bath, Avon
E-mail: nospam@nospam.com
Of course permission must be given for the change of use at 36 Grays Lane. Our servicemen and women went to serve queen and country and and country can't do less than support them in their time of need. I find it in extraordinary bad taste that any of the local residents could object to these plans.
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Troy Phillips
From: Canada - 24 Years British Army
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As a friend of Pete, and a former resident of Hedley Court I am grossly offended by the small mindedness of these selfish locals. Surely these people know the history of Hedley Court and the fact that the people who are rehabilitated there are the reason that they have the right to the democratic system they are now trying to abuse to penalise those who have made such a sacrifice for this country. Shame on them all!
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brian
From: Blighty
To those who support the proposals, a very big, heartfelt thank you.

To those who object, I have 'borrowed' the following quote. Whilst it comes from a film, the basic message is directed at each and every one of you. You should be suitably ashamed of yourselves and should retract your objections immediately.

"And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post."
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Alan
Nice to see that some people in have retained the old values expounded by their Victorian predecessors. Here's a little food for thought:

Oh. it's Tommy this, and Tommy that and "Tommy, how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin Red Line of Heroes," when the drums begin to roll.
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to play, it's "Thin Red Line of Heroes" when the drums begin to roll.

For it's Tommy this, and Tommy that, and "Chuck him out, the brute!!"
But it's "Saviour of his Country" when the guns begin to shoot.

So, it's Tommy this, and Tommy that, and anything you please,
But Tommy ain't a blooming fool - You bet that Tommy sees.

These small extracts from Kiplings poem show that he was obviously clairvoiant in respect of the "splendid citizens" of Grays Lane. I hope that God will forgive them for their insular and inhuman attitudes, because the servicemen and their families, as well of the millions of us who support them, will not!! Shame on you, you are beneath contempt.
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: nigel taylor
From: alyth perthshire scotland
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But for the armed forces personnel, past and present,the persons objecting to this facility might well not be able to enjoy the life and freedom they now enjoy !!!...They should be utterly ashamed of their stance against this medical BACKUP for our armed forces...NRT...
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Peter Watts
From: Worcester Park, Surrey
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I am extremely disappointed that so many objections have been raised against the use of this house for such a wonderful purpose.

There is obviously a need for somewhere for relatives of injured service personnel to stay and the long periods involved in the victims recovery make it essential.

I can understand that the residents of Grays Lane do not want unsuitable developments but the house will look the same. There will be more vehicles using no.36 and a few more temporary residents but it is hard to imagine that these temporary residents are going to be causing problems.

I am very sad that the residents are objecting to this change of use and wish that they could find it in themselves to support such a worth while cause.

Good luck with your efforts I sincerely hope that they are successful.
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Anan
From: Ashtead
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I live in Ashtead, but not near the area in question. A couple of things struck me reading the comments: Re the 'it's already an area used for business purposes' comments that seem to appear frequently - businesses need an official registered address for company law purposes to which official post (tax letters, etc) is delivered. In the case of small businesses this is usually the business owner's home address, rather than the address of the physical business site. It just means a bit of extra post is delivered to that address occasionally. If this is the case in Grays Lane(which I suspect it is) I'm afraid there won't be much mileage to be had from this argument when it comes to the planning hearing. There are also frequent references to an application for a cattery in the same road which was withdrawn - it was clear from advice given by the planning dpt to the applicant that the application would be refused on the following grounds:
“The proposed cattery by reason of its proposed location in an established residential area, would adversely affect the reasonable residential amenities of neighbouring residential properties due to the increased noise and disturbance associated with the proposed commercial use, in conflict with Mole Valley Local Plan policy ENV22.” - shortened version being 'detrimental to residential amenities'. So I'm not sure if raising this matter is actually helpful to SSAFA's cause - they will have to acknowledge that this is viewed as a protected residential area, & show that the change in user they are seeking won't lead to increased noise or disturbance to the neighbouring properties.

Admin reply: Anan, good points and thanks for actually looking at the information we've tried to provide!

On the business matter, the planners report on this application has already stated that, in planning terms, this would still be a residential use so the "business" arguments are spurious.

The point being made in raising the Cattery application was simply that the application didn't get a sudden rush of objectors' letters against it. In other words, even though the planners considered it unsuitable the local residents apparently did NOT!


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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Jeff Laing
From: North Devon
Julie
Thank you for your comments. Those running the campaign realise that most Ashtead residents are being very helpfull in supporting the cause. Regarding the other site, this would not be practable as the facility is required now and the time spent on building works would delay families being reunited.
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Chris Jones (Ex-R.Signals)
From: Gloucestershire
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I made my views known earlier on in favour of the SSAFA Proposal and have had an acknowledgement from the MVDC for my letter of support. However, reading the tone of the messages herein, I'm afraid this campaign is becoming something of a vendetta against the Good People of the Surrey town where the DMRC - Headley Ct has been in harmony for a very great number of years.

We should be careful to not paint all the residents with the same brush! After all the primary planning objection has been made by only one or two most probably.

To Peter & Sue I herewith give my apologies in that I will not be able to attend the public meeting on 1 Aug 07 at 1900hrs.

Regards,
Chris Jones, Volunteer Welfare Visitor - British Limbless Ex-Service Men's Association

Admin reply: Chris, thanks for reminding people of that.

Everyone, please remember when posting:

The people of Ashtead have been incredibly supportive of our efforts - especially when we've had the chance to dispel some of the rumours that had been circulating about the application and it's intended use.

Just looking back through here, you'll see that there are FAR more messages of support from Ashtead residents than comments against the plans. Even the comments "against" are mostly people saying they would have liked more information and less rumours!


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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Mrs C Wilson
From: Inverurie, Scotland
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I support your fight. Good luck.
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